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Well I think they should of said something...that they are no longer accepting USD and will only accept Bitcoin. That is a crappy way of doing business. At least other services tell you up front or let you know that they are going to BTC. This really gets me angry. I know they don't give a crap about the people using their service just as long as they can pay. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
💯 agree. This happen a while back, same idea. Ticket response delayed unfortunately, however would have been quite simple to send wide ticket with info. Been with them for a long time, this time is rough.
 
Paid the invoice with BitCoin and service reactivated immediately. However, I used BitBuy to by BitCoins with CAD and then transferred to BlueWallet to pay the invoice. Fees of around CAD$30 were deducted along the way. So I had to pay $30 fees to pay for $7 (USD $5) service. This is not making economic sense.
 
No, it doesn't make economic sense. So basically since they have switched to BitCoins it costs us more for the service, which they most likely are getting a piece of that cost, which is one way of getting more money for the service. I already pay one service with Bitcoin and its double of what the service costs because of the Bitcoin and the rate of transfer from USD to Pounds. :mad::mad::mad:
 
No, it doesn't make economic sense. So basically since they have switched to BitCoins it costs us more for the service, which they most likely are getting a piece of that cost, which is one way of getting more money for the service. I already pay one service with Bitcoin and its double of what the service costs because of the Bitcoin and the rate of transfer from USD to Pounds. :mad::mad::mad:
Double seems rather extraordinary when adding expenses, but I was really annoyed about how much I paid Coinbase some time back. I've since seen that their rates are 'competitive,' whatever that means, and I also understand that using PayPal and your bank is reasonable. Of course, you'd always have an exchange rate to deal with `£. Of course, one of the biggest issues now for everyone is that many of the services are only accepting crypto. Here are some results of a conversation with Gemini. It can be overwhelming for most people. Consider seeking out a service in US or BP that takes credit cards. Even if they charge a bit more in local currency, it may still be less than dealing with BTC and avoids the frustration and aggravation. And don't forget, YMMV, and Gemini can make mistakes:

1. The Best & Cheapest Combo: Cash App (Bitcoin)​

For the average person in the US, Cash App is usually the absolute best balance of simplicity and low cost for buying and sending Bitcoin.

  • Why it’s cheap: While Cash App charges a small fee to buy the Bitcoin (usually around 1% to 2%), they offer free standard withdrawals to external crypto wallets or payment invoices.
  • The Strategy: 1. Fund your Cash App using a linked bank account (debit cards have higher fees).2. Buy the exact amount of Bitcoin you need.3. When paying the IPTV invoice, choose the "Standard" (Free) withdrawal option if the invoice gives you an hour or more to pay. If the invoice expires quickly (in 10–15 minutes), you may have to pay a small "Rush" fee, but it is still usually only a couple of dollars, not $20 or $30.

2. The Absolute Cheapest Route: Litecoin (LTC) instead of BTC​

Before you buy Bitcoin, look closely at the IPTV payment page to see if they accept Litecoin (LTC).

Because Bitcoin is incredibly popular, its network gets congested, driving network fees sky-high. Litecoin was designed for small, fast transactions.

  • The Cost: A Bitcoin network fee can easily range from $5 to $20+ depending on how busy the network is. A Litecoin network fee is consistently less than $0.05 (five cents).
  • How to do it: You can buy Litecoin easily on Cash App, Venmo, or Coinbase, and send it to the provider's LTC address. If the provider allows Litecoin, always choose it over Bitcoin.

3. The Traditional Exchange Route: Coinbase Advanced​

Many beginners download Coinbase, click the big blue "Buy" button, use a debit card, and get hit with a massive 4% flat fee plus heavy withdrawal charges.

If you want to use a major exchange like Coinbase, you have to bypass their "retail" interface:

  • Use "Advanced Trade": Toggle on the "Advanced" view inside Coinbase. The buying fee drops from around 4% down to 0.6% or less.
  • Fund with ACH: Never buy directly with a credit or debit card. Deposit USD from your bank account via ACH first (which is free), then use that settled cash to buy your crypto.
  • The Catch: Exchanges like Coinbase often place a 3-to-5-day hold on your funds before you can withdraw them to an external IPTV provider. If you need to pay today, Cash App is faster.
Using PayPal alongside your U.S. bank account or debit card is definitely a familiar and comfortable route, but when it comes to buying and sending cryptocurrency, it has one major hidden trap you need to watch out for.

Here is the breakdown of the pros, the cons, and how to do it correctly so you don't get hit with those massive fees.


The Catch: PayPal’s "Walled Garden"​

While PayPal makes it incredibly easy to buy Bitcoin, they have a two-tiered system for how you can use it:

  1. The Good Route (PayPal's Crypto Hub): You can buy Bitcoin directly inside your PayPal account using your linked bank account or debit card.
  2. The Problem: PayPal charges a steep spread and transaction fee for beginners. For a $75 to $100 purchase, PayPal’s internal fee is usually around $2.49 to $2.99.
The real issue occurs when you try to send that Bitcoin out of PayPal to your IPTV provider. PayPal often charges a high network fee on top of their purchase fee to move crypto to an external wallet, and their processing times can sometimes be delayed. If your IPTV provider has a strict 15-minute payment timer, PayPal might not send the transaction fast enough, causing the invoice to expire.


How to use PayPal & Your Debit Card the​

If you want the security of PayPal and the speed of your debit card, the best method is actually to use PayPal to fund an external app or to use Cash App (which accepts the exact same U.S. debit cards).

If you strictly want to stick to PayPal, follow these steps to keep fees as low as possible:

Step 1: Use a Linked Bank Account (ACH), Not the Debit Card​

If you buy crypto on PayPal using a debit card, you are hit with the highest tier of retail fees. If you link your U.S. Bank Account via routing/account number and use that to fund the purchase, the deposit is usually free, keeping your total cost lower.

Step 2: Consider using Cash App instead​

Since you already have a U.S. bank debit card, Cash App is highly recommended over PayPal for this specific task.

  • Cash App links instantly to the exact same U.S. debit cards.
  • Cash App's fee to buy $100 of Bitcoin is usually under $2.
  • Crucially: Cash App offers free standard withdrawals to external addresses. PayPal will charge you a dynamic network fee to send the Bitcoin out, which frequently eats up another $5 to $10 of your balance.
 
Problem is that these apps are not allowed.in Canada...
True enough. Impossible to cover all combinations of issues/payments/options for every locale. It's a nuisance at best.
 
I paid my invoice using Bitcoin and it worked for 2 days. Now it says I did not pay for my invoice. Paid again and nothing, so I paid twice and no luck. Is anyone having the same issue?
 
Use Cashapp, you will only pay $2 and some change extra.
Paid the invoice with BitCoin and service reactivated immediately. However, I used BitBuy to by BitCoins with CAD and then transferred to BlueWallet to pay the invoice. Fees of around CAD$30 were deducted along the way. So I had to pay $30 fees to pay for $7 (USD $5) service. This is not making economic sense.
 
Use Cashapp, you will only pay $2 and some change extra.
I have to agree. That really sucks. There are some better ways. Living in WA, I don't have quite that problem, but I did some searching for someone with an account at Royal Bank, and there are some better ways. But that's behind you now. For what it's worth, for others and going forward, this is a private message I sent to someone in need of CAD. (It's long!)

I had some ideas passed on to me from a friend who spends his time between CA and Florida, but I had another conversation with Gemini, figuring that would give me some ideas, as I essentially know nothing. Actually, you might get some thoughts from OB as he's in CA., but here's what Gemini shot back to me. Kinda long, oh it's really long, hope it sheds some light:

When looking to buy cryptocurrency in Canada using a Royal Bank of Canada (RBC) account or a Mastercard, the route you choose makes a massive difference in fees.

The short answer is: Avoid using your Mastercard entirely, and do not buy directly with a credit card. Using a credit card or standard debit card for crypto is the most expensive method possible, often triggering massive fees and complications. Instead, the cheapest, smoothest, and best way is to use Interac e-Transfer directly from your RBC account into a low-fee Canadian crypto exchange.

Here is the breakdown of why, along with the best platforms to use.


Using a Mastercard to purchase crypto typically incurs heavy penalties:

  • High Convenience Fees: Crypto platforms charge an extra 3% to 5% just to process a card payment.
  • Cash Advance Charges: RBC and most Canadian credit card issuers treat crypto purchases as cash advances. This means you will be hit with an immediate cash advance fee (often around $5) plus high cash advance interest rates (usually around 22%+) starting the very second the transaction posts.
  • Frequent Declines: Most Canadian banks explicitly block credit card transactions to crypto exchanges to prevent fraud and debt risk.

Using Interac e-Transfer from your RBC online banking or mobile app is the industry standard in Canada.

  • Deposit Fee: 100% Free on almost all major platforms.
  • Speed: Funds usually arrive and clear in your crypto account within 10 to 30 minutes.
  • Safety: You approve the transfer directly inside RBC’s secure portal, meaning you never have to share your bank or card credentials with a third party.

Once you decide to use Interac e-Transfer, you need a regulated, low-fee exchange to convert your Canadian Dollars (CAD) into Bitcoin. The top choices depend on what you value most:

If you want to know exactly what you are paying without hidden "spreads" (inflated crypto prices), NDAX is highly recommended.

  • Deposit Fee: Free via Interac e-Transfer.
  • Trading Fee: A flat 0.2% (incredibly cheap for small or large purchases).
  • Best For: Getting the absolute closest market price for Bitcoin.
  • Note: They charge a flat $4.99 CAD fee when you withdraw fiat cash back to your bank account, so it’s best for buying and holding.
Kraken is a massive global powerhouse that is fully registered and regulated in Canada.

  • Deposit Fee: Free via Interac e-Transfer.
  • Trading Fee: If you use their "Kraken Pro" interface, maker/taker fees start at just 0.25% / 0.40% (and drop lower with volume).
  • Best For: Top-tier global security standards and advanced features if you want them later.
If you just want a clean, no-nonsense Canadian app to tap "Buy" without looking at complex trading charts:

  • Bitbuy: Free e-Transfer deposits. Their "Pro" tier offers a flat 0.5% fee, while their basic "Express" buy has a slightly higher built-in cost.
  • Shakepay: They charge "zero fees" on paper, but they make their money by adding a 1% to 1.5% "spread" to the price of the Bitcoin. It is incredibly user-friendly for beginners, though you technically pay a bit more for the coin itself.

  1. Sign Up & Verify: Pick an exchange (like NDAX or Kraken) and create an account. Because crypto is regulated in Canada, you will need to upload a photo of a government ID to verify your identity.
  2. Fund via e-Transfer: Go to the "Deposit" section of the exchange and select Interac e-Transfer. The platform will give you an email address, a recipient name, and a unique message/tracking code.
  3. Send from RBC: Log into your RBC Mobile app, go to Move Money > Interac e-Transfer, and send the funds to the provided email. Crucial: Paste the unique tracking code into the "Message" box of your e-Transfer so the exchange knows the money belongs to your account.
  4. Buy Bitcoin: Once the funds hit your exchange account (usually within minutes), go to the Bitcoin page, type in how much CAD you want to spend, and execute the trade.
 
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